you'll always have to try. if the tepphars 8Y9 would've come in L34 (never seen a pair), I would buy, but as they're only L32, I can't. I'll definetely try the Thavar and Tepphar cut. I would prefer a higher rise as with most of the Thanaz. If you're into slim (not skinny) jeans, I can recommend you the Core Sec cut of G-Star. I don't know if it's still produced, but I really like it and I'm looking for more nice washes.