@phukette I know that you are always constructive and positive and I respect your views.
I guess it's just like I really liked your Thavar 8880M. I thought they really looked great on you but you didn't and sold them.
Horses for courses I guess!
I appreciate your comments of course! Maybe in the photos they do look too tight. They do however fit like all my other sleenkers. Perhaps I will do some better photos. That said I like them and I have have been complimented about them!