HF's destruction is beautiful...

Originally Posted by JillianS

this is starting to remind me all too well of an old forum I used to be a member of...

The owners/admins got greedy and hypocritical-everyone jumped ship and started a new forum and now the new one is leaps better than the old.

Originally Posted by JillianS

this is starting to remind me all too well of an old forum I used to be a member of...

The owners/admins got greedy and hypocritical-everyone jumped ship and started a new forum and now the new one is leaps better than the old.

Originally Posted by mgras

Point is, it's immoral for you to reap the rewards for work that isn't yours. And for someone that enjoys pressing his moral standards on others.

Originally Posted by mgras

I don't blame the hackers for doing what they're doing.
Fuck, I've thought about hacking the site myself in the past little while, because, quite frankly, I'm worried about what else is being hidden now.

Originally Posted by JillianS

this is starting to remind me all too well of an old forum I used to be a member of...

The owners/admins got greedy and hypocritical-everyone jumped ship and started a new forum and now the new one is leaps better than the old.

Originally Posted by mgras

Yeah.

Actually.

They're pretty damn right.

I don't think I want to be a part of HonestForum anymore.

I really don't.

Like, this premium membership thing.

Almost been here a full year. Longer than some mods I think. Nearing 2500 posts to my name.

And I can't pay for the membership. Yeah fuckin' right my parents would okay me paying to join some fashion-forum.

So what? I get spit out. Thanks for that. Just another site that throws out it's free members out of greed.

You're forgetting something Dave, you're not the one that fills Honestforum with content. We are. It's our posts. It's us who authenticate denim in people's eBay inquiries, it's us who make stickies on how to spot fakes, it's us who buy and sell in the Honestmall, it's us who've used this site as an archive for our submitted-content, and a place to help out one another. You, have nothing to do with it. You have posts once in a while, maybe showcase some Apple commercials, talk about a new ad you're putting up, or some charity of some sort, but never something that Honestforum is actually founded upon. You're trying to profit by our work, making us pay for what we've created. What is this, the fucking pyramids? No. No, it's not. But you're damn-near getting there. I'm not going to build a tomb for a pharoh, and I'm not going to pay to help people, or to give information and advice. That's completely backward. If anything, members that post valued information should be rewarded, but that's not going to happen.

Point is, it's immoral for you to reap the rewards for work that isn't yours. And for someone that enjoys pressing his moral standards on others, well, you leave me quite perplexed.

This site must make enough from ad revenue to support itself, and charities, etc. And yet they want to take in even more? For what?

Well, thanks for that. I mean, this last minute restructuring Dave's doing to try and save the site is kinda meaningless. Like, this is the kinda shit that needed to be done before everything surfaced. 'Cause now that it's here. I see it more as just an apology, and not really a solution. Like, if the drama clears up, will all this continue? I don't think so. I think this is just a make-shift response to settle the fire that's raging here. And once it's gone. It's gone. And so is this.

And we'll be back to square one.

Do I blame Ben for leaving? No. He built that Diesel section. And this is how he's repayed? Ouch. That's just disrespectful.

I don't blame the hackers for doing what they're doing.

Fuck, I've thought about hacking the site myself in the past little while, because, quite frankly, I'm worried about what else is being hidden now.

This place is a train-wreck.

Originally Posted by mgras

Yeah.

Actually.

They're pretty damn right.

I don't think I want to be a part of HonestForum anymore.

I really don't.

Like, this premium membership thing.

Almost been here a full year. Longer than some mods I think. Nearing 2500 posts to my name.

And I can't pay for the membership. Yeah fuckin' right my parents would okay me paying to join some fashion-forum.

So what? I get spit out. Thanks for that. Just another site that throws out it's free members out of greed.

You're forgetting something Dave, you're not the one that fills Honestforum with content. We are. It's our posts. It's us who authenticate denim in people's eBay inquiries, it's us who make stickies on how to spot fakes, it's us who buy and sell in the Honestmall, it's us who've used this site as an archive for our submitted-content, and a place to help out one another. You, have nothing to do with it. You have posts once in a while, maybe showcase some Apple commercials, talk about a new ad you're putting up, or some charity of some sort, but never something that Honestforum is actually founded upon. You're trying to profit by our work, making us pay for what we've created. What is this, the fucking pyramids? No. No, it's not. But you're damn-near getting there. I'm not going to build a tomb for a pharoh, and I'm not going to pay to help people, or to give information and advice. That's completely backward. If anything, members that post valued information should be rewarded, but that's not going to happen.

Point is, it's immoral for you to reap the rewards for work that isn't yours. And for someone that enjoys pressing his moral standards on others, well, you leave me quite perplexed.

This site must make enough from ad revenue to support itself, and charities, etc. And yet they want to take in even more? For what?

Well, thanks for that. I mean, this last minute restructuring Dave's doing to try and save the site is kinda meaningless. Like, this is the kinda shit that needed to be done before everything surfaced. 'Cause now that it's here. I see it more as just an apology, and not really a solution. Like, if the drama clears up, will all this continue? I don't think so. I think this is just a make-shift response to settle the fire that's raging here. And once it's gone. It's gone. And so is this.

And we'll be back to square one.

Do I blame Ben for leaving? No. He built that Diesel section. And this is how he's repayed? Ouch. That's just disrespectful.

I don't blame the hackers for doing what they're doing.

Fuck, I've thought about hacking the site myself in the past little while, because, quite frankly, I'm worried about what else is being hidden now.

This place is a train-wreck.